Yes, instead ofSalixManiac wrote: ↑2. Sep 2022, 16:23 Hello gapan,
is it possible not to exclude "glibc-zoneinfo" updates by default?
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Yes, instead ofSalixManiac wrote: ↑2. Sep 2022, 16:23 Hello gapan,
is it possible not to exclude "glibc-zoneinfo" updates by default?
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There is slapt-src, but the idea is that you won't need it much, if at all. Almost everything from SBo is now already packaged in our repositories and you can install them with slapt-get/gslapt. And there's also flatpak...Van_Vinkle wrote: ↑3. Sep 2022, 10:46 If I am not wrong, there are no sbopkg, spi nor sourcery in the new Salix 15.
How do you advice install slkbuild packages?
SalixManiac wrote: ↑2. Sep 2022, 16:23 is it possible not to exclude "glibc-zoneinfo" updates by default?
Be VERY careful with glibc, never mess with it. In fact, latest glibc (2.36) breaks compatibility with old hardware and may make the system completely unbootable (what exactly "old" means is not completely clear but to my experience it's 10+ years old at least). glibc 2.35 or earlier still works on old hardware but 2.36 doesn't. Salix 15.0 has glibc 2.33 so it's still an option for oldies, but I am guessing at later versions this won't be the case anymore. Sooner or later only musl-based GNU/Linux distros will work on oldies - or FreeBSD and friends.
I admit I will miss 14.2, it served me for years and never got in my way. It was just there, working as expected like a solid rock. Oh well, it was about time for a change...
No disagreement there. That's why the glibc packages are excluded in slapt-getrc anyway. But my point is that any such upgrade is highly unlikely to happen within 15.0.Papasot wrote: ↑3. Sep 2022, 17:10 Be VERY careful with glibc, never mess with it. In fact, latest glibc (2.36) breaks compatibility with old hardware and may make the system completely unbootable (what exactly "old" means is not completely clear but to my experience it's 10+ years old at least). glibc 2.35 or earlier still works on old hardware but 2.36 doesn't. Salix 15.0 has glibc 2.33 so it's still an option for oldies, but I am guessing at later versions this won't be the case anymore. Sooner or later only musl-based GNU/Linux distros will work on oldies - or FreeBSD and friends.
Well, you can still keep 14.2... It is still receiving security updates. And probably will for some time to come, until it becomes impossible to provide these updates.Papasot wrote: ↑3. Sep 2022, 17:10 I admit I will miss 14.2, it served me for years and never got in my way. It was just there, working as expected like a solid rock. Oh well, it was about time for a change...
Judging from the betas and RCs, the only thing that bothers me in 15.0 is the goddamn elogind, which PV decided to make it a hard-coded dependency, so the only way to get rid of it in Slackware is to... recompile pretty much everything. I really find it hard to digest the fact Slackware-based distros will now have to use freaking elogind.
Don't get me wrong, I will install 15.0 in all my machines eventually, promptly starting with a laptop. Within a week or two, every computer I own/maintain will have Salix 15.0 installed. 14.2 works and will still work until the hardware fails. Still, it is about time for a system update - and it is a nice update, I just said elogind should not be there (for me at least, it was completely unnecessary). I only blamed PV for his decision to indulge the trend of hard-coding it in Slackware. I can replace a few things I don't like but not this one. Getting rid of elogind is not an option for any Slackware-based distribution, because it would require recompiling pretty much everything, essentially making a new distro that has very few in common with Slackware.
Geat newsgapan wrote: ↑3. Sep 2022, 15:15 Torrents for the final release are up:
https://download.salixos.org/x86_64/15. ... .0.torrent
https://download.salixos.org/i486/15.0/ ... .0.torrent
They are the same as RC4. I will make the announcement on Monday.